In case you don't want to read the whole thing:
- User barges in the dev channel and asks for a full-blown feature to be implemented
- User does not listen to the devs who give some information to answer the question
- User mocks devs who exchange some thoughts related to the implementation of the feature
- User complains that the devs who are trying to help are wasting his time, when in fact he is wasting theirs.
- User ignores the polite request to calm down
- User gets kicked by a senior dev
- Being humble really helps
- Listening to the answers to your question is really simple and helps a lot
- Insulting people isn't helping
- Not everything in software can be done easily
(05:17:24 PM) Kicksyourballs: So how can I hack open office to remove the stopping of me embedding my fonts in my documents?
(05:18:19 PM) thorsten: Kicksyourballs: no idea 'bout OOo, but for LibO: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/
(05:18:42 PM) Kicksyourballs: So how can I hack open office to remove the stopping of me embedding my fonts in my documents? - does any one know HOW to do do it?
(05:19:48 PM) Kicksyourballs: Yeah I have been fighting this fight big time for a long time - I am only intereseted in a solution, or doing what ever it takes to achieve that result.
(05:20:17 PM) thorsten: Kicksyourballs: sounds good - so best not waste time in discussion, but get some code rolled to support it -
(05:21:32 PM) Kicksyourballs: a) I CAN code - and if I apply myself to learning how to do it, I can and will but I'd rather speed the process up by simply finding the part of the coding that says "NO FONT EMBEDDING" and remove / edit / alter it
(05:22:00 PM) Kicksyourballs: And then publically announce the hack.
(05:22:07 PM) thorsten: Kicksyourballs: wrong assumption. it's simply missing - and needs extra code to handle it, at a bunch of places ...
(05:22:40 PM) frob_tea: Kicksyourballs: could you also look for "NO MAKING EVERYTHING GREAT BUTTON" and remove it?
(05:23:26 PM) Kicksyourballs: Yeah well - this info is not exactly publically advertised - "OK so you think us stopping you from embedding your own fonts in your own work sucks - here's how"
(05:23:56 PM) tml_: thorsten: and leaving out half of the glyphs, it would no longer be immoral to embed (if the creator of the font doesn't want you to embed it) ?
(05:24:32 PM) thorsten: tml_: no moral judgement at all involved - it's simply considered permissible by case law it seems
(05:24:43 PM) thorsten: fair use, yadda yadda
(05:25:08 PM) Kicksyourballs: I am am not intertested in arguing the issue, or the pro's and con's or debating it - I want to embed my own fonts in my own documents - and this is how it is going to be: http://tinyurl.com/3oyjeuo http://tinyurl.com/6kyk3ps http://tinyurl.com/6l5vtet http://tinyurl.com/44z8yqa
(05:25:10 PM) tml_: don't some font formats have information in them what one is allowed to do with the font?
(05:25:16 PM) thorsten: tml_: yes
(05:26:03 PM) tml_: Kicksyourballs: screaming "Fuck Ubuntu" doesn't exactly improve your credibility, make us think "this guy must be a good coder"
(05:26:06 PM) thorsten: tml_: still, subsetting is considered acceptable - that's what's used in pdf exports all across the globe, and also MSO ...
(05:26:10 PM) Kicksyourballs: Do the people here expressing opinions actually know how to do it? If you do, share it - if not - don't waste my time.
(05:26:27 PM) tml_: Kicksyourballs: no we don't, we are just kicking your nuts
(05:26:28 PM) frob_tea: Kicksyourballs: it was already shared
(05:26:46 PM) frob_tea: Kicksyourballs: calm down
(05:27:12 PM) Kicksyourballs: Thorsten - I am not interested in what you think - either you have a solution or you don't. If you do, share it - if you don't don't waste my time.
(05:28:03 PM) tml_: Kicksyourballs: maybe you should join that other OOo -based project instead, they are much more friendly
(05:28:36 PM) Kicksyourballs: So this is where the dick heads hang out...... opinions about everything - solutions to nothing.
(05:28:45 PM) Sweetshark: Kicksyourballs: this is the wrong channel. Unless you have a patch.
(05:29:12 PM) thorsten: Kicksyourballs: starts to get inacceptable - behave, or leave.
(05:29:15 PM) Kicksyourballs: http://tinyurl.com/3oyjeuo http://tinyurl.com/6kyk3ps http://tinyurl.com/6l5vtet http://tinyurl.com/44z8yqa - Sure......
(05:29:29 PM) Kicksyourballs: Dumb Fucks.
(05:29:36 PM) tml_: lol
(05:29:48 PM) ***Sweetshark giggles.
(05:29:49 PM) tml_: "fix my bugs, or! I know where you live!"
(05:30:02 PM) Kicksyourballs: LOL
(05:30:29 PM) frob_tea: tml_ "and which school your kids are going!"
(05:30:57 PM) Kicksyourballs: The low IQ one handed typists are such fun... "Oh well I think this, I think that" - "Do you know how to fix it?" No then fuck off.
(05:31:30 PM) Sweetshark: Kicksyourballs: Why dont you join dev.openoffice.org and explain to them how awesome you find their native linux packages?
(05:31:55 PM) Kicksyourballs: Oh Oh I am a Open Orifice developer... I have opinions to everything and solutions to nothing.... I'll hang out here with my other cool buddies.
(05:32:24 PM) Kicksyourballs left the room (Kicked by dtardon (Kicksyourballs)).
(05:32:30 PM) frob_tea: dtardon: thank you
(05:33:23 PM) tml_: you just have to love Open Source enthusiasts
(05:33:28 PM) Sweetshark: dtardon: now that is dry -- not even talking to the troll once.
(05:34:05 PM) dtardon: Sweetshark, i'm not so good at talking ;)
(05:34:31 PM) Sweetshark: dtardon: but your kicking moves are quite hamdsome ;)
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ReplyDeletewhy fonts are not embedded ? it's really important !!
ReplyDeleteI don't really understand tml_ comment: maybe you should join that other OOo -based project instead, they are much more friendly...
OOo projects are chosen because they are friendly and not useful ????????????????????
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ReplyDeleteI enforce my level of emotional health on others.
Thanks Mark - Andr'e - for posting this text on your blog, you have NO idea of what a great job you have done.